Credit Fico beacon score is different at all three bureaus. WHY?

My credit score on TransU is 782, Experian 840, but on Equafax it's only 672. Why so much difference and how can I raise the Equifax FICO score?
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I would have to see the reports

I would assume the Equifax has somthing on it the others do not
proabably a brand new account, an overutilized credit card or a collection. Do you see in diferences in the reports?
or did you get a 3 in 1 report. it is best to have a report from each bureau then check each for differences when you have report that shows a much different score. the 782 and 840 are close but different enough to want to know.....100 points is a drastic difference though huh?

All 3 credit reports and scores

Hello Bo, I have ordered all 3 bureau reports and I have TU =596, EquiF =783 Exper= 541
from the credit bureaus and from Freecreditreport.com
I sent out my disputes for Experian and TU so they should be taking the old accounts off and other inaccuracies. When I went to apply for a loan they said I have no credit scores? The service was Credit Link, they say I have no Beacon, Fico or Empirica scores showing - Why? Any ideas why the CR
agencies have scored me but Citibank, WellsFargo and 5thThirdbank for a mortgage do not see a score for me?
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i cannot answer that question
all i know is you might not have any current rated credit

Credit score changes

I am writing to you for some information about my credit score. I have tried very hard to get through the maze or firewall of phone messages at experian without any success. I have an account with them but because I have an online account, when I get my credit updates I don't get a report number and the maze is impossible. The question I have about my credit score is: Why does a credit score drop 6 pts in a month. The only thing I did last month was to apply to an apartment complex for their credit approval. I was approved but according to someone I spoke to on the phone, that one thing cost me 6 points on my credit report. Last year my credit score was 565. There was some old debt and some disputable information on the report, so I went to work to clean it up. Last month my score was 635. I just got a notice of a change in my score and when I checked, I noticed the 6 point drop in the score. I noticed a web page about you and decided to write and ask you if you could help me understand this situation. I hope you can help?
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looks like youve done well
you can take a 6 point hit for inquiries keep rated credit open and below 79% balance to high credit limit. when two years pass from date of last activity
you score will jump if you have good credit going now the average american has a score of 684
so your are almost there
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one other thingif you get an installment loanyour balance to high credit limit will be maxed out until you pay it down to below 79%

My credit score is a 452. How do I raise it?

I have credit score of 452 and I am determined to raise it. I am a little overwhelmed, but my question to you is where should I begin first. Should I start with the most recent bad creditors and work my way toward the older ones. I have some that should be removed this year. Should I let them go? I already went to all three credit reporting places on line and started disputes with those who had wrong info. OK. Thanks for your help.
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i would try hard as hadees to work on anything bad from today back two years dispute anything on your credit report older than that and pray. get new reported and rated credit do what i did to fix my credit report with and how i negotiated a bp oil charge card charge off, if you have anything like thatjust charge your gas for a year to stay out o more trouble. and hope nothing else bad happens to you in he meantime.
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I am getting ready to make my calls. I am going to tell them I would like to settle my account and would they please totally remove it from my credit report or to report as paid in full as agreed. If they agree, I will ask for something in writing say they agree to that? Should I ask them to settle for a lesser amount? Or is that pushing my luck? I also have a car loan and two credit cards that I keep current on, so that should take care of my 3 open credit accounts in good standing. Had them for a little over a year.
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I called my first creditor. (Comcast). I asked if they would send me something in writing and he said that is a LEGAL issue and they don't do that. He said it was illegal for them to remove it. Best he could do would be marked paid in full after I pay it, so I said I would. Is the LEGAL part of his answer true??
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in truth yes
but they could change it and say it was their mistake, if they were asked, which they never would be asked. So legally they can change. most utilities do not negotiate. pay in full or don't. they reall do not care, because next time you go to get cable and they check your credit you are stuck unless you pay. the best ones to help you are collections and charged off credit cards which you reopen with full payment and a extra downpayment to show trust. in the end if you pay the bill you have one less unpaid bill in the past due column
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you have reduced your balance to high credit limit ratio. your credit may take a instant hit but it will quickly recover with new good credit that is at least 12 months on the bureaus books

FICO score question

How do I know what past debt to pay off first in order to raise my FICO score FAST? Is it true that I should pay the most recent items first? Thank you
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i would negotiate to have the most recent or less than 2 years old accounts removed from my report if i pay in full right notget signed on compnay letterhead agreement before you make payment in full if they will not remove it, pay it anway and, it will show zero balance which will help your score. anything more than 5 years old i might ait out for it to fall off or validate and dispute the debt hoping to get lucky my negotiation travails

I need a credit score of 680+ to keep my investment job

My credit score according to American Cred Co (mortgage credit check) is 680 EXF, 610 TU and 610 EXP.

However when I checked each bureau individually my credit score was over 700 with each one.

Without a 680 score across the board it is making my investment career impossible.
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you have no data for me to analyze mark
drop balance ratios to less than 80% 10% if you want to be super credit man
if you have tons of credit lines
consolidate them down to as few as possible

i assume you have no late payments

I'm implementing all of your suggested methods to improve my credit

I'm implementing all of your suggested methods to improve my credit. (I was recently turned down for a car loan.) My biggest problem is that my credit is young, so that can only be fixed with time. However I did have one question. How does a deferred student loan affect my credit? It appears as pays as agreed on my report, however it also appears in the debt to available credit ratio. Any idea?
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i dont know what your score is now at all three bureaus
or what else is one your report.

but i would guess 10-40 points maybe
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well my credit's in the crap hole to be honest. It's only 10 months old, each one of my cards has a late mark on it (60 days or less, nothing more). I have paid off and cancelled one card that was paid as agreed. I currently have three, $500 limit cards, and after seeing your site I will not be charging them over $400. All three report to my credit report. I have one student loan that is marked as paid as agreed.

Also there was one collections placed on my account, but it was paid, and I'm trying to get it removed. It was a medical bill, that was covered by my health insurance ($56) that I never knew about, so it went to collections. I paid it before I saw your site, so I'm trying to have it removed since it wasn't really my responsibility.

Thanks for all the help. Sadly, my credit score is barely 500.
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the insurance company should be on the hook for that
and the hospital should show, SOME help with a "this not my fault" transgression
i would open the bad closed credit card back up with the same account number
10 months of credit on a credit report does not a credit report make
12 months is rated credit so expect your score to go up if you pay these current accounts on time
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Credit Card is lowering our limit raising interest rates for being close to our limit

My husband and I have a unique situation regarding a single credit report error that wasn't, to the best of my reading, addressed on your website. Although we have a high amount of debt ($90K), we have an excellent credit score (800+) due to many years of diligent, timely payments.

However, in 2002, we learned of a bad mark on our report (which we feel was in error), and we wrote the attached letter to Equifax, Experian and TransUnion (which explains all the details). My husband swears that this had been taken care of in 2002, but we just received a letter from two credit card companies that due to having approached/reached our credit limit, along with a report recently viewed on our credit report, they are lowering our limit and raising our interest rates.

We just purchased another copy of our credit report and were astonished to see this mark still on our report. We cannot locate any other documentation other than the attached letter, and the company through whom we made the purchase (and who made the billing error) is no longer in business.

The details surrounding our circumstance are fully explained in the letter (the only change is that our personal info has been blocked out).
Since our case is beyond validation and negotiation (and the debt was paid eight years ago), is there any course of action we can now take to remove this mark from our report and convince these two credit-card companies (to whom we've been loyal customers for many years) that the mark was an error and to lower our interest rates?
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you dispute it with the dispute form

if your score is 800 who cares?
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I see your point (in fact, that's what we thought), but I guess two of our credit card companies seem to care about that negative report. They just decreased our limit and raised our APR by 7% - based on 2 things: the fact that we reached our limit, and this negative mark they saw on our credit report.

How can a dispute for a negative report 7-years old be judged in our favor when the reporting company has been out of business for 6 years? And if we send this dispute form to the bureaus, how can we expect different results than the first time we disputed it?
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Also, hubby corrected me on our score - we're at 714 (last night, he told me 800).

Anyway, interested in your thoughts on trying to dispute our situation.
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Credit card company rules, always state, they can raise your rate for going over the limit or being one day late on any payment. AND THEY ALWAYS DO. i know I've done it over and over.
They also state they can raise your rate for any darn reason they can conjure. If you read the print.

about the old stuff.
that doesn't make sense over here.
Dispute form the items is all i know.
if your score is 800 it means NOTHING.
714 is 6 less then Perfect, Can't get any better, top tier, best credit you can get practically.
so

Did you not see on the msn page just a few days ago that BOA was now raising rates for no reason at all right now.
Did you know Delaware is credit card, title loan, pawn shop, friendly. Like Nevada lets you strip and gamble

Experian verified my debts and my score is low 800's

Let me thank you for helping me to raise my scores to the low 800s on two of the 3 reports.As you would expect, Experian had come back and said all the debts were verified. This was about 8 months ago and we all know you can't dispute a second time online. My question, what would you recommend I do? Do you have a second dispute letter? I'm afraid there just going to say it's already been verified. (All the old debt has been paid in full.)
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your 800 for goodness sakes
forget about it
a 720 is platinum what do you want?

disputed some collections, asked asked Discover if they would re-open my charge off

My average score is 627, my highest is 650 with Equifax. I have a few things in the works right now and I was wondering if you could tell me maybe how much my credit score will jump if these things get through. My girlfriend and I are thinking of buying a house. Her credit is 800+ but I make more money. Do you think we'll have trouble?1. I have disputed some collections on my report and sent letters to the bureaus. I have not heard anything back yet. It's only been a few days though. Most of them are paid (there's like 4 total) and I know they probably won't come off. 2. I have sent a letter to Citibank (student loans) to ask they remove late payments as I have paid on time for the last 24 months. The late payments were from 2005 - I have turned around and paid over the maximum every month for 24 months. 3. I had/have a charge-off with discover. I called and asked if they would either re-open my account if I sent them money, or remove the item from my report if I paid. They said all they could do was report "paid in full / settled" on my report. I said that was fine. I finished paying that off yesterday. They have sent a letter to the CRAs to update the status. How much can I expect my score to jump? Only #3 is the "for sure" thing, the others might not happen.
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you could go up to 700+

if
nothing shows negative for the past 24 months with citi bank
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you have 3 lines of new good credit paid down to less than 80% balance owed to high credit limit.

wanting to clean up my credit in order to purchase a house

I am wanting to clean up my credit in order to purchase a house. I especially don't want to have to pay a high interest rate. I have several delinquent credit cards on my record but it's all over 2 years. I have plans to pay all bad dept off in another year. But I read from your web site after 2 years even if the dept is paid, it wouldn't raise the fico score very much. In spite of the bad credit reported, I do have 2 current credit accounts that are excellent which are on my recent file.

My question is ... would I do better by leaving the 2 year old bad dept unpaid? I'm afraid if I paid the bad dept off, it wouldn't reflect on my credit report as paid. I don't trust any collection agency's promises unless it's in writing. And I have had collection agencies refuse to put any negotiation in writing. At least, I was smart enough not to take their word at face value. I didn't pay the agency.

Also, can I dispute the amount I am being charged to only the credit bureaus and bypass the collection agency all together? There are stock piles of late fees and late charges that I feel I shouldn't have to pay. For example: In reality, I may owe only $600.00 but after the late charges from the creditor and fees from the collection agency, my dept increases to $1000.00. Is this even legal?
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the original creditor is the only place to negotiate
collectors cannot sue or threat to sue
and they can not put sold collections on your report in MOST cases

valdiate these debts
and call file with your state attorney general is they do not compy which they can't
most collections were sold for pennies on the dollar to help the first creditor.
it is illegal for them to threat to sue and to put it on your credit report
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Will 2 year old bad dept affect your fico score, especially when you have good credit that's been paid on time and has existed over two years?
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i dont know
what is your credit report fico score at all three bureaus?
what does it need to be?
many times a home or car loan will require one to have all past due outstanding debts paid in full.

Once settle and pay a collection they will not delete from credit report

I am in the process of paying off old debt that is showing on my credit report. Here's my question, I have 2 debts from NCO-Medclr. One for $539 and another for $314. I have spoken with a representative for agreement on settlement of this debt. First off, they stated that they will not send an agreement letter stating what amount we have agreed upon. Secondly, I asked them once this debt is paid in full (which I was willing to do over the phone) will they then delete this information from my credit report. They stated they cannot "delete" the information but mark it as "paid off". Is this true?
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they do not have to remove bad credit from your credit report just because you pay them. it was still a bad credit issue at one time.
they can remove items and do remove items many time if you do pay in full. Not sa settlement for less. in full with fees. much stonger postion for credit help.

one way or the other I adivise everyone to try to pay off stuff no matter what.
the least they could do is not give a more recent date of last activity if you pay them off.

Mail address is incorrect and I have an account that is too old 7

And I'm not happy. First i would like to start with having an unauthorized mail address in Trans union. There's my mail address with an additional unapproved mail address. Should i contact Trans union and dispute? Second also have a an account open (CITI CARDS CBSDNA ) since 1994! Shouldn't that been deleted? And why does it still say OPEN and (Pays account as agreed)? And on legend it stating (ND). I really don't want to think the worst. Third Is it normal to have accounts display in all three Credit Bureaus.
Please advice. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks for your time
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is the mail address one you lived at once? or not. what do you mean unauthorized

if the account is open it will be reported
call citi cards. if it is not open close it i guess or use it to keep good credit for at least 24 months.

most account only report to one or two bureaus
but many do report at all three bureau that support FICO credit scores
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No I have never lived or use that address before. I mean that why would they be sending mail to that address without my authorization.
I will call citi cards. Thanks!
I have sent my negotiating letter to my creditor. Hopefully they will come to an agreement.
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you should dispute the address even tough some bureaus kick that out
say fraud
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Got a new credit card and my score did not go up

The fico score has been more consistent climbing from the 550 up to about 602 with the disputes and the other thing that I had removed. I had opened a Orchard bank credit card and it remained at 602. The true credit scores have went from 550 to 592 and back to 568 with the opening of the new card. Can you provide some clarity, and maybe suggest a good credit monitoring service. Oh yea and none of those reports and score match up with a all in one WAC report that a mortgage person might use.
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it takes 12 months reported MR to help your credit report FICO score.Usually you score goes down a little when you first open an account

Had 3 things removed from credit report. Going to check my FICO

I just wanted to say thanks because your knowledge has helped me gain ground on my credit report. I have done exactly like you said with excellent results. I have successfully had 3 things removed from my credit report although I haven't seen my FICO score yet, I am very happy that they were removed. I used your forms to negotiate and it worked.Thank you very much!!-----Original Message-----
From: majors@oskie.com [mailto:majors@oskie.com]Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:40 To: US Military personel
Subject: Re: Credit help
Car loans and home loans are the hardest thing to get off your report AFTER they have happened. If you catch them while they are happening, or right after, then many times the installment loan company will make a change. If you have reciepts or bank statements contradicting the entries, the creditor has to take the 30 day late marks off. it sounds like you have already tried this and it did not work. so i doubt very seriously that you will be able to get these removed. the best thing to do about this is, to get it all, date of last activity's for the past 2 years 2 years or more behind you, and keep good at least 12 months, reported credit going. If you keep good credit open, when 2 years pass the 30 day late marks will have little or no effect on your credit rating. Credit is real and sometimes it is best to learn and go on. You can dispute these items with a free dispute ,but you have already called them directly. So the chance of anything different happening is very slim on other suggestion would be to pay the loan off as quick as possible. the quicker you can start the date of last activity on that account the quicker the account will be gone off your report. As it stands your report will continue to show you were 30 days late for seven years after you pay off the account in full.
On 1/3/08, US Military E3 wrote:
Hello Sir, Is there a way to get rid of the 30 day late payments on my credit report? I was reviewing my credit report like you said and I do not think I was as late on my car payments as the car company is saying. I even printed out my payment history with them and it is not clearly evident that I was late nor on time. Do you have any suggestions? Please Cc your response to (email), this is my home account. Thank you very much for your time and knowledge.

Sent letters of payments with request to have lates removed

I have sent in letters and proof of payments with requests to have the items removed once the account is satisfied. One, they didn’t remove it and two, my score didn’t go up an inch. I’m so frustrated I want to cry. Any advice?
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accounts will show up as paid once you pay them
not removed, UNLESS you get lucky when you negotiate before you pay the account off in full.
which it sounds like you have yet to do. So pay the accounts off and get new good credit and in 2 years you will be happy.
bad credit is not a quick fix unless everything is totally an error by a creditor or a bureau.
Sounds like you have had past 30 60 90 days late, in the past 24 months.

i do not have all your information.
so this answer is limited in scope
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I have contacted several of my creditors and paid the account off in full…requesting at that time to have the item removed. They said they would do so and it is still on there and they received their money.

Also, I had a summary judgment that was satisfied…being that it was $8000 and I didn’t have to pay anything (landlord filed it when he found out I was suing him for his garage door falling on my head and injuring my back), I thought that it would make a difference in my score once I notified the CRA’s but no change. I know that this is going to take along time…how do they say “if I knew than what I know now” I would have been much better at this, but I got stuff and lost my job…and couldn’t keep up anymore.
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usually creditors will only remove that you are late NOW
not in the past.
UNLESS you get something in writing saying theyt will do so.

get new good credit and get satan behind thee

a judgment rendered is a whole nother matter
if you had a judgment renderd
then
you found to be at fault by a court of law.

that just takes time to get off your report.

2 years and things will be much better
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Thanks.

Credit counseling and past late payments paid off.

I have two credit cards that i went through credit counseling, and even though i paid every month, I paid lower monthly amounts that my credit counseling told me to pay but they didn't finalize the agreement with my credit card companies yet. I didn't catch this right away and now I have late charges on my account for not paying enough. I have been on time for the last three years and know they are paid off, but I still have negative reporting. Also, i was late on my student loan, but know paid in full three years ago. Is there anything I can do to get the negative off my report. Two years ago I was at 520 now I am at 670 but I can't get any better. I have three credit cards with little balance and higher credit limits. I haven't missed a payment in over three years, but two years ago I paid of two collections, and I didn't negotiate with them before i paid them off. If you could help I would really appreciate it
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you can dispute those old accounts and hope
but more than likely you have done all you can for now other than wait

oh
a 670 fico score is pretty good

Insurance premiums are going up each year because of my credit score

I recently received my automobile insurance bill and home owners bill from the Hartford insurance company. I have been with this company for 4 or 5 years now.
Each year my insurance keeps increasing and they say it is due to my credit, they claim that I need 40 years of credit history. There are to many people looking at my account, to many credit cards, etc.
I have one credit card, one car payment and one mortgage payment. My wife and I have a large money market account and a large IRA fund built up. We pay an additional $300 dollars per month to the principal on our mortgage.
I have never heard of such garbage.
My credit is impeccable, I have never declared bankruptcy and my credit score last time I checked was 780. I am told that is a good score.
I actually purchased this insurance through AARP, so assumed it was an honest company, now I think the reason my rates keep going up are because of my age.
I am 67 years old, I am sure the company would not want to fall into an age discrimination law suit if they told me the truth.
I have never collected on either policy, have never had an accident or any tickets.
Should I start looking for another insurance company or is this something that there is an answer for to reduce my insurance premiums?
It certainly is not my credit that is making my premiums rise.
I wish to thank you in advance for your response.
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That sounds like you are right spot on.
I do not see that I could help any further as you know what is going on.

i would suggest maybe talking to the bbb or ftc or even your state attorney general about untruthfulness.
there has to be some accountability here. So put their feet to the fire if you can.

Trying to get my score up to purchase a home

Thanks for the quick response. I do have 3 open lines of credit in good standing. I have not gone over the credit limit nor have I made any late payments. One card increased my limit by $250 and another will be increased by $200 in 3 more billing cycles. Unfortunately, I opened 2 of the accounts less than 6 months ago (nearly 4 months ago). I know that is not long enough..... I have had the other card for over 1 year. They each have less than a $10 balance on them. One has $5. One has $2 and one has $8. I saw on your website that it is a score booster to keep the cards at less than 80% of the balance. I am trying desparately to get the lowest score up. I just don't know how to go about doing that? I had a negative item deleted from my credit report which allowed my Experian score to go from a 628 to a 640 in less than a month. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I am going to try and purchase a home in a couple of years. I don't want a lender to reject my loan or to give me an astronomical interest rate.
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your high credit limits are low too
you have whats called a thin credit file
one needs some pretty big high credit to go for a home loan
if you have 10 to 20 % down you should be ok thought
ask to have your credit limit increased on those cards.
the 630 credit score range will get most people financed if the credit file is thick
your job is good and youve been there a while?
youve got a good downpayment

anything can be overcome with a downpayment.

8 Collections and charge offs on my credit report. two are paid.

I currently have 8 collection/chargeoffs on my report. 2 are paid collections neither is 2 years old. The other 6 unpaid are scheduled to fall off by this time next year. I have 3 open of lines of credit that have been never been late and in good standing for 8, 7, and 3 years which each of them report to the bureau each month. Besides being patient with father time and continuing my on time payments with the positive 3 is there anything else I can do. I know one is a duplicate. I can dispute that one. One has a different date of delinquiecy than the original creditor so i think need to dispute that also to have it linked to fall off at the correct time. Any suggestions/advice would be appreciated on the others Bo
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That is one of the most comprehensive well put questions I have ever received
One thing is missing. What is your credit score now.
Verify the debt with a debt validation letter to the collection agency. Negotiate if they can verify the debt. Dispute the account if you get no answer, or signed with company letterhead agreement.
You seem to had a great grasp of the best parts of raise my credit score fast. Make sure your open credit, show less than 80% of balance to high credit ratio. Divide the balance by the high credit limit and get lower than 79 percent %.